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#1 11/03/2009 12:07:42 am

fastscud
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Registered: 10/23/2009
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CISS for Canon MX860 or HP Photosmart Premium 309a?

Hi,

Does anyone here have experience using CISS for either the Canon MX860 or the HP Photosmart Premium 309a? If so, could you kindly tell us which CISS you're using and what you think of it please?

Also, is it true that CISS doesn't work properly with pigmented inks? ie. cartridges that use pigmented inks will be replaced with dye-based ones if using CISS?

thanks a lot, cheers.

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#2 11/03/2009 5:24:12 am

pharmacist
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From: Ghent, Belgium
Registered: 05/29/2007
Posts: 1185

Re: CISS for Canon MX860 or HP Photosmart Premium 309a?

Do not use CISS on these types of printers: sooner or later it will be disappointing... Only Epson printers will get good results with CISS systems.

Can you use pigment inks ? Yes you can, but one should take care to use good quality ones. CISS sellers seem to cut costs by replacing the pigment text black with cheaper dye inks...


Using Hobbicolors UW-8 ink + KMP-PMT pigment ink. Printers: Epson 1400 A3+ with Inkrepublic.com IRK4-nano pigment CISS, Canon MX850 AIO and now my latest purchase: an Epson Pro 3800 A2 large format printer + refillable T580x cartridges refilled with pigment ink from Precisioncolors.com.

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#3 11/03/2009 5:52:40 am

fastscud
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Registered: 10/23/2009
Posts: 7

Re: CISS for Canon MX860 or HP Photosmart Premium 309a?

Hi Pharmacist,

Thanks for the reply.

pharmacist wrote:

Do not use CISS on these types of printers: sooner or later it will be disappointing... Only Epson printers will get good results with CISS systems.

Can you explain why only the Epson ones get good results from CISS please?

And which Epson printer is similar to the MX860 / Photosmart 309a that you'd recommend to use with CISS? The key features for me are:

- duplex printing (preferably still using pigmented ink black cartridge when printing b&w)
- auto duplex scanning of double-sided source documents
- borderless copying / scanning
- auto document feeder
- networked, and perferably fax and wireless capable

And is there any down-side to use Epson compared to the equivalent Canon / HP? eg. higher ink usage, shorter print head life etc?

pharmacist wrote:

Can you use pigment inks ? Yes you can, but one should take care to use good quality ones. CISS sellers seem to cut costs by replacing the pigment text black with cheaper dye inks...

Do you mean there is no technical reason for not using pigmented inks in CISS? ie. it won't increase the probability of clogging when compared to dye-based inks? (I remember reading somewhere that that's a common issue with CISS, so they don't come with pigmented inks ... hopefully that's wrong)

Finally, is there any particular CISS that you recommend with an Epson?

Thanks again for your time, very enlightening!

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#4 11/03/2009 6:24:16 am

pharmacist
InkJet Master
From: Ghent, Belgium
Registered: 05/29/2007
Posts: 1185

Re: CISS for Canon MX860 or HP Photosmart Premium 309a?

Fastcud,

do no expect me to answer all your questions: all these can be found on this forum and look around on the internet. About the fuctionalities of the printers you mentioned: just look on the manufacturers' website. The problem is pigment ink it can clog the purging pad overtime, but I think it has to do with the type of pigment ink used.


Using Hobbicolors UW-8 ink + KMP-PMT pigment ink. Printers: Epson 1400 A3+ with Inkrepublic.com IRK4-nano pigment CISS, Canon MX850 AIO and now my latest purchase: an Epson Pro 3800 A2 large format printer + refillable T580x cartridges refilled with pigment ink from Precisioncolors.com.

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